My Story

The thread running through it all.

I've worn a lot of hats over the years. Pastor. Leader. Speaker. Creative director. Storyteller. Interviewer. Coach. Dad.

The titles changed. The thread never did. Every chapter of my life has been about people: noticing them, listening to them, and helping them see that their story matters.

EJ Swanson sitting on a bench, smiling
EJ alone in a quiet, dark hall
Where it started

Before the stage, there was a person who needed to be seen.

I know what it feels like to walk into a room and wonder if anyone notices you. I also know what it feels like when someone does. When a person slows down, looks you in the eye, and sees more than what's on the surface, something changes. That feeling never left me. It became the reason behind everything I do.

The journey

Different chapters. Same thread.

EJ speaking on a church stage
01 · Pastor

Learning to sit with people.

Ministry taught me to show up for people in their best moments and their hardest ones. I learned that you can't truly help someone until you've taken the time to understand them, and that sometimes the most powerful thing you can offer is your full attention.

A full conference hall
02 · Leader & Speaker

Rooms full of people, one person at a time.

Over 22 years and more than 2,600 audiences, I've learned that a crowd is never just a crowd. It's a room full of individuals, each carrying a story. The best talks don't speak at people. They help each person feel like you're talking to them.

A film studio with lights and crew
03 · Creative Director & Storyteller

Every person has a story worth telling.

Behind the camera, I found a new way to see people. Through films, interviews, photography, and more than 1,300 social media videos, I've helped people and organizations find the story that makes them who they are, and share it in a way that connects.

EJ listening during an interview
04 · Interviewer & Coach

The power of a good question.

Good Stories Co. and EncouragedYou both grew out of the same belief: the right question, asked with genuine curiosity, can open a door. Whether I'm interviewing a guest or encouraging a young athlete, my job is to listen well and help people see what's possible.

EJ with a group of kids
05 · Dad

The most important people to see.

Being a dad is where all of this gets tested. My kids don't need a speaker or a storyteller. They need someone who notices, listens, and reminds them they matter. Fatherhood keeps teaching me that the people closest to us deserve to be seen the most.

There's a difference between noticing someone and truly seeing them.

And that difference matters.

Where The Art of Seeing People came from

A name for something I'd been doing all along.

For years I couldn't quite explain what tied my work together. Pastor, speaker, storyteller, coach. On paper they looked like different careers. Then I noticed what every one of them had in common: the moments that mattered most were the moments someone felt truly seen.

That's when it had a name. The Art of Seeing People isn't a technique I picked up. It's what I'd been practicing all along, and the SEE Framework is my way of helping others practice it too.

My education and experience have given me different ways of understanding human connection, leadership, communication, and relationships. But the heart of it has always been the same.

I want people to feel seen.

Education & credentials

Different ways of understanding people.

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What I practice

The SEE Framework.

S

Slow Down and See.

Recognize the person beyond the surface.

E

Engage with Intention.

Listen, ask meaningful questions, and seek understanding.

E

Encourage What's Possible.

Help others recognize their value, strengths, and opportunities.

Let's have a conversation

I'd love to hear your story, too.